Episode 26
Practical & Economical: LoRaWAN with Henry Huang
Henry Huang, CEO of Browan Communications, talks about Browan’s cost-effective, hybrid IoT strategies and real-world applications in Indoor positioning, Asset tracking, and IoT in Hospitals.
- Leverages existing Wi-Fi APs and LoRaWAN gateways to deliver Indoor positioning and Asset tracking while keeping customer costs down
- Demonstrates practical IoT in Hospitals with LoRaWAN-enabled mobile nursing station trackers integrated into hospital Wi-Fi environments
- Uses heat maps generated from Wi-Fi signals combined with LoRaWAN backhaul to enable zone-level Indoor positioning in semiconductor plants and airports
- Outlines precision tiers (±20 cm to ±50 m) to balance accuracy requirements with investment, ensuring solutions remain economical
- Shows how adding gateways improves coverage and feeds dynamic heat maps, allowing scalable expansion of Indoor positioning networks
- Emphasizes hybrid technology—combining LoRaWAN, Wi-Fi, UWB, Bluetooth, and Zigbee—to address diverse enterprise use cases and maximize ROI
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Transcript
Today's guest on MeteoScientific's
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:The Business of LoRaWAN is Henry Huang,
CEO of Browan Communications.
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:Henry brings over two decades of wireless
communications leadership, from Wi-Fi
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:and LTE at Gemtek to pioneering
LoRaWAN device manufacturing at Browan.
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:As a member of the LoRa Alliance board,
he guides both product innovation
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:and industry
standards across global markets.
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:In today's conversation, Henry outlines
Browan's hybrid tracking approach,
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:leveraging existing Wi-Fi access points
to generate signal heat maps,
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:then using LoRaWAN as a low power backhaul
to report
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:zone level positions
for assets and personnel.
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:You'll hear how this solution is live
in a Taiwanese semiconductor plant
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:for visitor zoning in a major Southeast
Asian airport for tracking buggies
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:and wheelchairs,
and in a Thai hospital to locate shared
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:nursing stations
without disrupting daily operations.
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:He also dives into the precision tiers
ranging from +/- 20cm for high accuracy
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:use cases to +/ 50m for broader zone
constraints, and explains how Browan's
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:AI driven management platform
dynamically integrates new access points
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:into its heatmaps for organic coverage
expansion.
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:Henry's dual technical and business
background, from an electrical engineering
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:degree in Taiwan to an MBA in Baltimore,
equips him to deliver brutally efficient
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:insights on deploying and scaling
LoRaWAN in real world environments.
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:Whether you're an executive assessing ROI,
an engineer
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:designing IoT networks, or a hobbyist
exploring hybrid connectivity,
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:this episode delivers
actionable expertise.
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:This episode is sponsored by the Helium
Foundation's IoT Working Group.
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and is used by everyone
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:from hobbyists to businesses
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:at console dot medio scientific.com.
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:Now let's dig into the conversation
with Henry Hwang.
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:Henry,
thanks so much for coming on the show.
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:Thank you for having me to your show.
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:Thank you very much.
I'm really excited to have you on.
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:I saw your presentation in Barcelona
and you talked about what you're doing
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:in LoRaWAN.
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:I thought we'd start with the focus
that Browan has on tracking,
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:and I thought we'd actually start
at the very beginning
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:with how you're using their current Wi-Fi
apps to basically get your foot
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:in the door and say, we'll use your Wi-Fi,
and then you introduce LoRaWAN.
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:Can you walk me through
how you're doing that? Yeah.
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:So actually, as you know,
Browan is the solution provider.
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:So as we were developing
a lot of different products
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:for customers,
we found that tracking is specifically,
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:in interest of different,
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:kind of assets
tracking and different scenario.
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:So and more and more
so we found that there's no one
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:simple technology
that could address everything
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:because there is different
level of precision,
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:different level of range coverage
and so on.
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:And also investment related.
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:Many of our customers wanted to leverage
whatever has been installed there
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:and then provide
a level of asset tracking.
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:So we came up with an idea of using
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:the existing Wi-Fi system
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:and then having the,
developing the heat map,
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:which is the signal heatmap of the Wi-Fi,
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:and then having a LoRa device
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:to further send out the location
when the Wi-Fi device
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:from two different access points
and the location is sent back
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:to, LoRa as a means of the access,
tracking, or person
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:tracking in a specific environment
that already has Wi-Fi.
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:So it's a combination of Wi-Fi
that is already there, plus the LoRaWAN
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:as a backhaul to send back the data,
of the position of the specific assets.
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:It was a super cool idea in that you used
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:what the customer had, and then you said,
hey, maybe you don't have coverage here.
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:We built this heat map.
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:Let's fill this in with some LoRaWAN.
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:Yes, that was really cool.
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:Let's see now.
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:Can you walk me through the kind of levels
of tracking idea
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:and how accurate a position needs to be,
depending on the use case,
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:and maybe give me some examples of what
those are. Yes.
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:So in some production sites or some more,
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:precision
requirements on the access location,
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:sometimes the customers would hope
that they could identify or locate
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:and assets within a plus -20cm.
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:Or sometimes customers say
that we are fine because the asset is big.
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:We just need to know where
the location is.
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:Somewhere in the zone.
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:You know, you could be a plus -20 to 50m,
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:but we'll still be able
to get to the zone.
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:So we call it the precision,
the zoning of different levels.
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:So when we combine Wi-Fi together
with LoRa,
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:when it's actually helping our customers
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:with a more lax coverage, less precision,
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:but yet being able to
constrain it within a zone.
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:So we call it a zone zone
level checking system that we provide.
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:That's pretty cool.
And can you give me an example of that?
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:You guys have some customers
you can talk about?
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:Yes. With this, Wi-Fi zoning,
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:is actually applicable
and actually actually running
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:in one of the semiconductor
manufacturers in Taiwan
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:where they want to use this
zoning for personal tracking.
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:So they use a batch kind of, device
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:to apply to visitors to their facility.
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:Okay.
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:So these visitors with these badges,
that goes to the, Wi-Fi environment
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:and further send out the location
through LoRa so that the operation manager
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:would be able to locate people
who are authorized to be in A zone.
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:Shouldn't be in B zone.
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:So whenever they cross the border,
the operation manager would get an alarm
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:and then prevent them from going
further into, some restricted zone.
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:We also have an airport in Southeast Asia
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:where the airport already had Wi-Fi,
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:but they wanted
to, lower their investment
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:and try to create more value
out of the existing network.
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:So we add on a LoRa on top of the, Wi-Fi,
also provide them the heat map
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:so that they could locate the, buggie,
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:the golf carts to move people from gate
one to get 50.
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:Sometimes this buggy is,
not easy to locate within a big airport.
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:And then they also have trackers
on their wheelchairs
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:and also some of their working trolleys.
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:So in the airport with this combination,
they are running it now.
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:And they found that the,
they are being more efficient
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:and effective in locating the assets
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:and provide the assets to the point of
service where it is, needed.
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:You see what I'm saying?
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:So sometimes the move it to gate 30
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:and but the next 30 minutes,
they need to be at gate one.
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:So they improve the efficient efficiency
significantly.
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:So this is, a couple of the simple case
use I'm sharing with you.
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:So I, I have a great understanding
of the LoRaWAN in the airport.
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:That makes a ton of sense.
They've got their Wi-Fi.
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:It mostly works. It doesn't always work.
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:So you add in LoRaWAN gateways
and you use a tracker.
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:That's 100% clear to me.
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:The first part, where they're sending
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:a position over LoRaWAN
that was gotten from WiFi.
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:I'm not as clear on that.
Can you walk me through how that works?
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:Why wouldn't you just use the Wi-Fi? Yes.
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:No. Because, when you use a,
first of all, when you use a Wi-Fi
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:for locating
because of the nature of the protocol,
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:is always sending beacons,
and it wears out the battery very quickly.
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:So when we when you have all the AP,
you start
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:normally between access point,
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:WiFi access point, a, Wi-Fi
access point B,
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:the distance is probably around 20 to 30m.
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:And then you have another 20, 30m
all down the hall.
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:So this access point,
all has its own position
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:or the, the ID from their
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:ID to tell you where they are.
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:So we already know access point
number one is located somewhere.
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:Number two located somewhere.
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:So along the way,
when they get different level of rssi,
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:we know actually this device is moving
from access point one to access point two.
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:God. Okay.
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:So that's super cool.
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:Yeah. Now I get it right on.
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:So and it makes it
so that the tracker on the LoRaWAN
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:side can be much more passive
because you're just listening for WiFi.
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:You're not trying to join it.
You're not trying to do anything.
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:You're just saying, hey, I heard AP one
and now I'm hearing AP two, no, AP three,
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:and you transmit that part over LoRaWAN.
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:Okay. Now that is much more clear to me.
Super cool.
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:Yes. That's right. Okay.
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:So if you want higher precision,
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:the higher density of access point
that you have to provide
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:a stronger
signal, signal received reception.
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:I could narrow down the distance between A
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:to B, eh, between A and B,
so you see what I'm saying.
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:Yeah. No, that makes a ton of sense. Okay.
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:That's really cool.
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:And then it was there one other one
that you had that's a use case
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:that you can walk me through a thing is
the carts in the or is it a hospital? Yes.
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:We also have a hospital in Thailand.
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:Yeah. Yeah.
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:They're there because in this hospital
wards every nursing station,
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:nursing station of the ward
would be supplied by 3 or 4.
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:They call the nursing, mobile station,
where it includes the computer,
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:plus the TPR sensors for for the
for the patients, and the computers.
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:It would be to, retrieve the files.
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:But because of all this sharing going
on, many times
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:it is, has been misplaced,
not returned to the proper place
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:or they are lending or borrowing
are lending to each other different.
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:What's in that certain, cases.
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:So they want to locate this asset so that
when it is needed they know where it is.
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:So it is the same thing in the
in the hospital.
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:They already have Wi-Fi.
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:And then they wanted to have quick
installation for the essence checking
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:and no interference of daily
routines operation.
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:That is going on in in the hospital.
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:So we say, okay,
we will simply install, you know,
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:in each level, two LoRaWAN
gateways, one each at the end.
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:So you provide perfect coverage.
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:Well, we develop the heat
map of the hospital floors,
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:and then we provide the asset tracker
on the mobile station.
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:And you can easily locate it
to this connection and know where
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:which zone it is being placed.
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:That's super cool.
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:I mean, this is like an indoor positioning
problem that you're solving and saying,
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:hey, you don't need always need to know
down to the centimeter where something is.
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:Yeah. All right. This is super clever.
I like this a lot.
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:The benefit of is actually helping them
to minimize significant investments.
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:Second second of all
is definitely not to interrupt
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:any existing operation that has to be done
on a routine, daily routine.
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:So it really improve the level
of satisfaction to our customers,
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:not only in the, the locating it, but
also in the, the money that is invested.
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:Yeah. Yeah. No, it's really cool.
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:And then one of the things I hear over
and over in LoRaWAN businesses is
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:you start with one thing.
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:You put the gateway in there like,
hey, that's cool.
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:Can you also do this other,
other aspects that you're seeing,
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:they're asking for whatever workplace
safety etc., where they see this,
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:you're like,
oh, show me what else you can do.
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:Yeah, sure.
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:In an area where we actually have
this Wi-Fi, you know, in a warehouse.
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:So they they're not only looking
for locating their assets,
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:the bigger ones with zoning,
they're also thinking about,
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:since we have a LoRa coverage,
can you provide us the
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:the geo fence for different area workers
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:to prevent them from going area 1 to 2.
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:And they also want some security level of,
to prevent unauthorized
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:opening
of some emergency assets in the facility.
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:So we have our door window sensors
for then to.
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:And they will also thinking about
can you install some PIR sensors.
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:So in certain area of where
the operation is closed
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:because of weekends or holidays,
there's still this LoRaWAN
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:activated PIR sensors for motions
when unauthorized person
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:happens to come in the facility
during a closed day.
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:So there's the expansion.
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:You know, when you have the LoRa network
implemented,
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:there's actually a lot of different
kind of sensors and services,
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:value added services
that could be added into the network.
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:I thought that was really clever.
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:I think the way that you said it to me
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:when we were talking was you said, hey,
consider
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:putting these into enhanced security.
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:So it's like it's
not this super hard sell.
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:It's like, hey, you've got this thing.
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:You could
you can put a couple more things in.
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:And we because for broadband
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:we not only have the device,
we have the gateway plus the solution.
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:So it is very easy
for us to have our customers
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:to expand on the existing network
for more value added services
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:that could help them
to be more effective and efficient.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah, yeah.
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:Now you started
Browan started as a hardware company.
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:And started adding these services.
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:That's kind of the obvious move is once
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:you're making the hardware, like,
all right, let's service it.
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:I think the next thing
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:coming down the pipe that's, in almost
every one of these conversations is AI.
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:What are you guys looking at, if anything,
where you're going to start integrating
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:AI into what you're doing?
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:Yeah, I think at this, at
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:this stage,
we are actually providing the vehicles
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:for the datasets, which would then
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:further builds up the foundation for AI.
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:So before we fully move into AI,
we are actually developing
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:analytic tools on the dashboard
to help managers to make decision
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:that there's a level of AI implemented
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:in the zoning tracking that I mentioned.
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:With that we talk about just now because,
you know, in in many instances, people
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:or the facility managers
would like to add a new access point.
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:And this access point, when added in need,
not be further registered.
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:The system, the management system
that will receive additional signal,
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:we will verify the BSSID
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:and then get it into the network
to expand the closeness
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:and the density of it so that, this
the zone would be previously might be 30m.
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:But now because of adding new one,
it comes down to a ten meters.
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:And the system recognize it,
implement it into the heat map
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:and then take it as part of it
by the AI system,
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:because you would be authorized
and then get into the heat map,
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:because sometimes the access point
is just for broadband purposes,
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:but some
they open up for positioning purposes too.
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:So then we will recognize it and authorize
it into the heat map automatically.
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:So that is the level
AI that we're using it for the natural
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:organic expansion.
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:And we hope that with more data
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:being collected through
the means that we're providing right now,
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:the analytic tools would then
further leads to a very effective
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:AI model for operational decisions.
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:Okay.
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:I mean, that sounds pretty exciting
as we kind of wrap this up,
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:anything else you see in the future
for Browan that you're excited about that
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:you want people in LoRaWAN to know about
and maybe give some guidance on how
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:this is where the industry is going.
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:Yes. I think
as one of the leading player in LoRaWAN,
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:we not only invest a lot in LoRaWAN,
but we also understand
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:the needs of our customers
when it comes into an environment
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:where is the hybrid of different
technology to enable a real world
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:IoT to be practical
and then to be economical.
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:So we building on the foundation
of our knowhow
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:and our experiences in LoRaWAN,
which would definitely
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:be our focus of business
into the years to come.
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:We are also adding in new technology
like Wi-Fi, like Ultra Wideband,
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:for different levels of integration
and purposes.
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:Of course, Bluetooth is already a given.
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:Zigbee is also something
that we are integrating
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:into our device, and also Wi-Fi. Halow.
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:This, when all this technology
have its pros and cons,
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:and when added together,
it actually provides
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:a better solution for different scenario.
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:So as I have mentioned in the Barcelona
speech, as it
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:there's always no one single technology
that could address all the problems.
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:There's no perfect technology for it,
but there is a united effort
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:where all the technology comes together
to address a specific issue.
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:So this is what we believe
and will continue to do that improving.
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:And it's super cool to see.
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:And I love the inclusiveness
and saying, hey, we're
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:just going to use the right technology
for the customer,
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:maintain that customer focus.
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:And that's that's a service. Henry,
I know you're super busy.
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:I know you've been traveling a bunch.
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:I really appreciate you making the time
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:to come on and share
what you're doing with us.
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:Thank you very much.
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:The pleasure is mine.
Yes. Thank you very much.
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